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10 months ago

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Speed flip

Strykeredbull11’s discussion got a lot of attention and started a few arguments. I’m here to clear things up. As an experienced player I do not think speed flips are necessary or even very helpful until at the very lowest, champ. If you ask anyone who’s champ or above they are likely to agree with me. All the d1s and plats who claim that the speed flip helps and made them rank up probably don’t realize that them ranking up was due to other things like game sense and mechanics that they can’t visualize progressing as clearly as something like a speedflip. Essentially, saying that a speed flip helped you rank up is like saying learning to flip reset is what made you rank up. Sure it will help but most of the time, a flip reset is unnecessary to score just like a speedflip is unnecessary to win a kickoff.

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keyyz_

Champion II · Division I
10 months ago
Speed flips aren’t needed until the higher ranks but definitely are a very useful mechanic if you know how to do them right.
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
@vuulg yeah but lower ranks are not very good with car control so the flip cancel part of the flip would be hard for them
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
especially if they are 1s mains they might as well just diagonal flip
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y_no_caca

Diamond II · Division I
S15 Tournament Winner
9 months ago
no hate but didnt u speed flip at like diamond
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LND_vuulg

OP
9 months ago
i did a little bit but i didn’t all the time i wasn’t consistent and that had almost nothing to do with my ranking up
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y_no_caca

Diamond II · Division I
S15 Tournament Winner
9 months ago
@vuulg yea ive been speedflipping for a while now and at first it was actually bad cs i wasnt consistent with them and i would js lose every kickoff now it actually helps me win most kickoffs. i dont need it to rank up at all but its a good thing to learn. also ive seen so many ppl say ā€œ OH yEA I caN SPeEd fliPā€ and its worse than a diagnal flip 😭😭
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Kriliq

Champion I · Division I
Twilight Trainer
9 months ago
I dont speed flip
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Kriliq

Champion I · Division I
Twilight Trainer
9 months ago
I do it sometimes but not all the time
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m4tripsy

Diamond III · Division III
9 months ago
@LeKrili Bro youre plat, you cant even speedflip properly
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Kriliq

Champion I · Division I
Twilight Trainer
9 months ago
@troxy56 i can just cuz im plat rn doesnt mean i cant speed flip dumbass ive been d1 div4 peak thats not even that much lower then u
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LND_Salami_RL

Diamond III · Division I
S19 Tournament Winner
9 months ago
@LeKriliq Im with U! Im plat and can speed flip! (sometimes)
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LND_Salami_RL

Diamond III · Division I
S19 Tournament Winner
9 months ago
Ive done it in the training packs, therefore, I CAN speedflip
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JayBirddd

Gold II · Division II
9 months ago
@troxy56 dude I’m plat, I like gave up on rank and I’m trying to learn mechanical thing instead of ranking up, cause hitting cool shots is like the MAIN PART OF THE GAME and ranking up, but… hitting cool shots is better šŸ’€
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UnitetBird472

Platinum I · Division II
9 months ago
I’m so committed that every rl screen recording I do has a dedicated day to watch and review all of them
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UnitetBird472

Platinum I · Division II
9 months ago
I play a lot of casual then some ranked to see how good I’ve gotten from those casual matches
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FordDudeJames

Champion II · Division I
Transcendent Master
9 months ago
As a fellow champ player, even some people up here don't speed flip, and it's bad news for them. I win every kickoff when I speedflip, so if you are champ, learn how to do it. Please šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™
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LND_vuulg

OP
9 months ago
i agree champs need it but not any time before then
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-tman

Grand Champion I · Division II
S18 Grand Champion
9 months ago
most champs cannot speed flip correctly šŸ™
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GlcticAcid

Diamond III · Division I
9 months ago
I started diagonal flipping in low gold and after I got that consistent, I started adding the cancel. The cancel isn’t really hard, you just have to be fast. I can speed flip pretty consistently now,(although only left side lol) and it is useful for recoveries, and I can dust most people on kickoffs if I don’t mess it up. Overall I’d say it’s useful in low ranks, but not something you should focus on. Speed flips won’t make your rotations better, just faster. Focus on actually improving your rotations instead of just trying to find workarounds. And I agree that most people below diamond probably won’t get it consistent before they get a decent rank if they focus in useful stuff.
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Jonaxy

Diamond I · Division I
Design Legend
9 months ago
Your not gonna get to champ if you can’t speedflip lol, the earlier you learn it the better, speedflips alone won’t help you rank up but rotations and recoveries (which are much more useful with speedflips) do
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LND_vuulg

OP
9 months ago
guess what i got champ without speed flipping i only just started doing it recently but up until not long ago i did a normal diagonal flip kickoff and it works against c1s you haven’t played in champ lobbies tho so you wouldn’t really know
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
my friend is gc and he can't speed flips or fast aerial
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
he also is c1 in 1s
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Dunezys

Diamond I · Division I
S18 Tournament Winner
9 months ago
yeah there was a point in time when I thought I did a speed flip correctly then forgot the next day
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Yt_Sneezebar_ttv

Diamond III · Division I
S18 Tournament Winner
10 months ago
I think if you spend a lot of time in training like me then u should learn how to speed flip but if u don’t then wait until you are a higher rank
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LND_vuulg

OP
10 months ago
speed flip helps even less in training bruh šŸ’€
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Yt_Sneezebar_ttv

Diamond III · Division I
S18 Tournament Winner
9 months ago
@vuulg I still play comp and cas soooooo I just take a long time to warm up
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tiderll

Platinum III · Division II
S17 Tournament Winner
10 months ago
Speed flips aren’t rlly needed in any rank actually accept for like gc and ssl but the wave dash kickoff is what helps me rn
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tiderll

Platinum III · Division II
S17 Tournament Winner
10 months ago
It’s so much easier to learn and it’s still rlly good šŸ‘
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
nah champ too cause they as fast as gc and ssls just the skill gap is massive
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
@tide_rll as for me and my movement i'm able to do stuff ssls can such as chain dashes
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LND_reliic

Diamond I · Division I
S18 Tournament Winner
10 months ago
I agree, I’m low plat and even though I speed flip, that doesn’t always mean a free goal, you still have to learn things like dribbles, ball control, ACTUALLY SHOOTING IN THE NET, and car control.
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wxshed_

S16 Tournament Winner
10 months ago
they're important at any rank, no matter what rank they can give an edge, and are simplish to learn
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LND_vuulg

OP
10 months ago
eh not really until you get to high ranks but then again u just play heatseeker so…
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
speed flips are useful in lower ranks but only for recoveries, but for kickoffs they are completely useless. Plus, lower ranks tend to have ass car control so they are going to mess up the flip cancel part of it so yeah.
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SeanlovesJesus

Platinum III · Division II
Completely Lost
10 months ago
I understand what your saying it’s jus now that I’m diamond everyone speedflips and wins the kickoff so I speed flip and do a 50/50 and score but there useful for saves
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Blink

Champion I · Division II
10 months ago
Yeah I hate speed flipping it makes me feel good on kickoff but I get destroyed every time cuz it’s like a delayed kickoff. But tbf I’m just all around ass cheeks
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
u probably do it wrong
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
when u speed flip on kickoff make sure u do it twice in one kickoff
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Icysun

Champion III · Division I
9 months ago
speedflip immediately, t then speedflip into the ball instead of speedflipping then driving to the ball cuz the ball would just go right over your head
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Blink

Champion I · Division II
9 months ago
@TPNE_osoicy I know… I just… suck ass
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JayBirddd

Gold II · Division II
9 months ago
@Blink_RL bruh lol I should post clips of me trying a speed flip, I’m like always getting the ball 1 and1/2 seconds before the other person but the just jump like ugh 😩I think I might just go play Minecraft

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