@-Goose- yeah but honestly I started the whole black veloce thing ages ago, and it's become the 'go to' wheel for such designs but even though they're my favourite wheel of all time, I'm kinda tired of seeing them in designs lol. Especially when they're used in a similar way to how tw octane is used. It's a bit gimmicky now for me.

@Raiyu gimmicky, probably not a word. It'd a bit of a gimmick. That's better 😊

@Raiyu oh for godsakes kill me, and my phone

@-Goose- I suppose, it still looks banging though lol

@Raiyu yeah true lol