@peak_diamond oh my gosh for real I try doing it in the right but I use air roll left and it’s really hard to do the setup. Thanks I’ll practice doing in the right today. I do have air roll right but I have all my controller settings changed so air roll right for me is A cuz my boost it R so it’s hard to jump (B), switch to ball cam (x), and air roll right. I’ve learned from some YouTubers like thanovic that you can tornado spin with air roll left off or right wall (that’s what he does) so I’ll try doing that. I think maybe having ball cam on during the setup might make it easier. Thanks for the feedback!